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Title: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 23, 2016, 03:51:41 PM
Since the board is dead as hell, I figured I'd throw around some summer project discussions....

#1). Still working on my son's Jeep !
Thus far, we've replaced around $1,200 worth of parts on it. Battery, alternator, starter, water pump, belts, hoses, radiator, thermostat, valve cover gasket, idler wheels, belt tensioner, engine oil & filter, transmission oil and filter, blower motor, blower motor resistor, fan switch gauge pod, wiper motor, wiper blades, fuel pump, pump tank skid plate, front axle u-joints, shocks, front stabilizer shock, KC lights, fog lamps, coil packs, plugs, PCV valve, exhaust hangers and clamps, timing chain and windshield. 

Still need to do the front and rear drive shaft u-joints.
Minor frame rail rust repair.
Minor front fender rust repair.
Front and rear differential oil change.
Transfer case oil change.
Soft top replacement (he's on the hook for that $)
Front and rear brakes (don't need them for 1-2 more years).

Kid's applying for a summer job now. Rule is, he pays for gas and insurance once he turns 16 (if he wants to drive).

#2). Finally getting closer to building a garage up at the cabin. I have a decent guy lined up, trying to let myself actually let him do it rather than doing what I always do (do it myself). Truth is, I'm never happy with someone else's work. I'd hate to pay for a half ass job.... So, I need to drink 4-5 beers, where I don't give a shit anymore and actually just let someone else do it for me. I've come to the realization that I have almost NO time at all anymore. I barely have time to enjoy the cabin, let alone actually work on it.

#3). Need to stain the cabin, or hire someone for that too.


Last year, I think I had 10 or 12 items on my list, and only got 4-5 items completed. This year, I've decided to put 3 things on the list, in hopes of getting at least one thing done  :floor:

 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on May 23, 2016, 10:01:32 PM
102 sheets of drywall arriving tomorrow AM @ KP's...

I'm having it stacked in the rooms!  Menards offers delivery in house any floor.  HD does not do that, so I went with Menards.  Cashed in all of my 11% rebates! 

Not cheap for basement delivery!  $2 per sheet. 

Ding Ding on #2 GB.  No time to get stuff done.  Need to start enjoying it vs working on it all the time.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 24, 2016, 07:17:54 AM
102 sheets of drywall arriving tomorrow AM @ KP's...

I'm having it stacked in the rooms!  Menards offers delivery in house any floor.  HD does not do that, so I went with Menards.  Cashed in all of my 11% rebates! 

Not cheap for basement delivery!  $2 per sheet. 

Ding Ding on #2 GB.  No time to get stuff done.  Need to start enjoying it vs working on it all the time.

My problem is youth sports right now. Got around 40-50 baseball games over the summer, then two basketball teams and hockey never stops, oldest goes year round. I'm 7 months away from having another driver, so that ought to help out a lot, as I never plan on attending another hockey practice again, but I will make efforts to be at most games.

Work is also picking up! A lot harder to take extra time off these days with the construction marking just now slowly starting to creep back up. I'd say out company is doing around 50% it's normal numbers (1990's sales were double our current sales). The Obama experience has cost my company 25 employees over the past 8 years. I'm about to hire 1-2 people back in the next couple of weeks (if I can find the right fit for us).

 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 25, 2016, 07:14:47 AM
F'it I got a contractor meeting me up there on Saturday to discuss a price  :banana:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on May 25, 2016, 09:11:25 AM
re-roofing the shack in a couple weeks.

Finish painting house

Replace a couple of windows

Find used motor for Zero Turn Mower - or buy new shortblock - Bought new JD D140 lawn tractor from HD for use now.  Would just get rid of zero turn mower but those things are like gold.  Decide which one to sell when re-engined.  Wife says make boys do engine swap and oversee it............hmmm, she mite be right

currently remulching landscaping

Can you believe Mercer got over an inch of snow a week and a half ago?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on May 25, 2016, 11:11:53 AM
lots of work here...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on May 25, 2016, 02:10:41 PM
About a month ago I painted the kitchen and dinning rooms.   

Then the kids decided to swap rooms...   :eek:  so this past week has been spent peeling off wallpaper border, painting, cleaning carpet and moving furniture.   Still on the final phases of getting the rooms back together/organized. 

Next will be cleaning the living room carpet.

I've also been working hard on my lounging on the deck, enjoying listening to the birds and starting to get a good tan.   :floor:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 25, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
I'm nervous about spending any kind of money right now, my oldest will be in college in 3 short years.... my youngest 3 years after....  :'(

But, if they can't find a job after they graduate, they can live in my brand new shiny pole barn !  :floor:

My wife just got a summer school gig that will last 1/2 of summer, so her "to do" list just got cut in half too. She planned on painting several rooms in our main house and working on landscaping and plantings. Maybe she can get the kids to do some of that work... ?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 25, 2016, 08:26:16 PM
Got a head start on Summer projects a few months ago...

When I worked for a company and spent a lot of time on the road we had the house painted and the painter suggested doing a popcorn ceiling as the most cost effective way of hiding the cracking drywall tape. It looked good when it was done and for a few years later but... There is no way to clean/maintain a popcorn ceiling and when it  got dirty/dusty started looking BAD.
I finally bit the bullet and decided to remove the popcorn and repair the joint tape. This will take the Summer with all of the work I have lined up I'm sure.
So far the popcorn is gone and the joints re-taped and first coat... as you can see doing a 19 ft ceiling in a geodesic dome is no picnic!



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Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 25, 2016, 08:29:16 PM
So far I have put over 1500 screws in to stabilize the sheetrock and hopefully prevent future problems. When I built the house the best that was available as far as a cordless screw gun was a Skill 12v which drove about 20 screws before needing a charge so we went sparse on installing screws.

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Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on May 25, 2016, 10:00:39 PM
phantom, is it glued too? Is it giving you drywall pop or tape failure? 

No leaks or anything correct? 

32 screws for each 4x8 sheet for reference.  (1 per sq ft. )

That's a good amount of work to do on a scaffold too. 

Hoping to get a start on my little project this weekend too.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 26, 2016, 05:51:03 AM
It was my first drywall job 30+ years ago and done in less than ideal conditions. You can see where I pulled the tape off and there was no adhesion of the mud to the rock. 
No glue... when we built the house the construction industry was in the "Make it airtight" mode so I put 6mil plastic over the insulation as we were instructed to do by the dome manufacturer and glue would have just stuck the rock to the plastic.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on May 26, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
gotcha.  Yeah, drywall is a sucky job to do unless you gots the tools and stuff.  I'm lazy enough, the guy helping me out has a drywall lift.  Those are really nice for ceilings and also if your working by yourself.  The extra screws should hold up good for you.  That sucks to mud/tape that area, with the geo based home, is every panel an angle cut?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 27, 2016, 05:23:15 AM
Every triangle is two panels with the tapered edges meeting on the flat down the center but the 60 triangles all meet at angles. 60 triangles each with three edges meeting at angles...

I look at it this way... the first go round I didn't know what I know now and it lasted 30 years this should last me the rest of my life or until we sell the house. We are on the 5 year plan to get out.

 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 27, 2016, 07:40:48 AM
It was my first drywall job 30+ years ago and done in less than ideal conditions. You can see where I pulled the tape off and there was no adhesion of the mud to the rock. 
No glue... when we built the house the construction industry was in the "Make it airtight" mode so I put 6mil plastic over the insulation as we were instructed to do by the dome manufacturer and glue would have just stuck the rock to the plastic.

That looks like a real sucky project.
Great job on getting it done on your own like that...  :beer2:

The sanding part is the worst...  :(
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: countryboy on May 27, 2016, 07:47:23 AM
About a month ago I painted the kitchen and dinning rooms.   

Then the kids decided to swap rooms...   :eek:  so this past week has been spent peeling off wallpaper border, painting, cleaning carpet and moving furniture.   Still on the final phases of getting the rooms back together/organized. 

Next will be cleaning the living room carpet.

I've also been working hard on my lounging on the deck, enjoying listening to the birds and starting to get a good tan.   :floor:

Do you have a graduation in there too or is that next year?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 27, 2016, 07:26:20 PM
It was my first drywall job 30+ years ago and done in less than ideal conditions. You can see where I pulled the tape off and there was no adhesion of the mud to the rock. 
No glue... when we built the house the construction industry was in the "Make it airtight" mode so I put 6mil plastic over the insulation as we were instructed to do by the dome manufacturer and glue would have just stuck the rock to the plastic.

That looks like a real sucky project.
Great job on getting it done on your own like that...  :beer2:

The sanding part is the worst...  :(

Sanding is not bad as long as you are good with the knife... I have learned that if you don't put too much on thee won't be too much to sand. I have a sander that hooks to the vacuum with a water filter between to keep the dust to a minimum.

http://www.sandkleen.com/products.htm

http://www.menards.com/main/drywall-tools/magna-sand-kleen/p-1444438806317.htm

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Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on May 28, 2016, 07:57:42 AM
About a month ago I painted the kitchen and dinning rooms.   

Then the kids decided to swap rooms...   :eek:  so this past week has been spent peeling off wallpaper border, painting, cleaning carpet and moving furniture.   Still on the final phases of getting the rooms back together/organized. 

Next will be cleaning the living room carpet.

I've also been working hard on my lounging on the deck, enjoying listening to the birds and starting to get a good tan.   :floor:

Do you have a graduation in there too or is that next year?
That will be next year. :fear2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 31, 2016, 09:54:20 AM
Contractor meeting went bad..... 25% over budget..... Need to re-think my design....  :blink:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on June 02, 2016, 08:23:24 AM
Steel pole barn's are relatively inexpensive?  24 x 36 pole barn at menards is priced around $5400 in materials. 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on June 02, 2016, 03:48:07 PM
Steel pole barn's are relatively inexpensive?  24 x 36 pole barn at menards is priced around $5400 in materials.

Sounds real cheap to me... Check into the quality/gauge of the metal, size of posts and framing members, etc.

When I built my camp the metal roofing was available in two gauges and two warranties on each. 20 year and 30 year for rust through. so there were actually 4 different options.

When I built my garage/mini barn at camp the materials were close to 5K...
14X 16...
 Conventional framing, Barn style gambrel roof trusses with attic space. Two overhead doors, one service door, vinyl soffit material, Plywood for exterior and metal for the roof. Trusses were rated for snow load but the pitch was steep except the top 4 ft on each side of the ridge.
I will say the materials were top notch... 2x4s were almost clear with no knots and as straight as I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 03, 2016, 07:33:07 AM
My garage price crested $40K, time to take a step back and re-evaluate my design and choice of contractor.

I'm pretty sure what's going to happen, is what always happens. I'll end up doing the f'n thing myself for 1/2 the money, 1/2 the time and double the quality. Story of my life.  :blush:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on June 03, 2016, 09:43:18 AM
Phantom,
That was just basic materials at Menards, no labor and very little options, but, basic structure. 
Yes, re-evaluate the design and materials.  There is no way you will ever, ever, ever come close to a break-even on that price for a garage.  Even 25k is going to be a stretch to break even. 

My father built a simple pole barn that is pretty large for $10k, he did some labor himself, but not the heavy or high up stuff.  Not fully done, and no concrete floor, but using for basic storage.  He uses it to store his camper in the winter time. 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 24, 2016, 07:39:51 AM
Last weekend's progression of pain.

Started out sanding the cabin. Yes sanding....  :banghead: Decided that if I sanded the cabin, I could focus on one wall and then stain it right afterwards. After spending around 3 hours on 10 square feet, I re-evaluated my strategy and decided to pressure wash the stain off the cabin.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 24, 2016, 07:42:24 AM
So, after 5 hours of power washing and a handful of really tasty beers. I thought I was the man ! Got it done in record time and I could spend the rest of my weekend fishing and messing around with the ATV.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 24, 2016, 07:45:05 AM
Not the case ! Not at all. When I woke up the next morning, I realized that I "furred" up the logs by pressure washing it  :blush:

So, I spend the rest of the weekend hand sanding every single log with a air compressor & DA sander. Basically, just knocking the fur down on the logs. It went half way quick, but used 200 sanding discs and the compressor didn't shut off for 10 hours straight.

Ready for stain on 4th of July weekend (I bet my family can't wait to help me).

 :floor:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on June 24, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
I'm sure you could hire someone to media blast it (corn cobs) for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: PRO-X 600 on June 25, 2016, 09:41:31 AM
I'm sure you could hire someone to media blast it (corn cobs) for a reasonable price.
This seems to have a good reputation, though I'm not sure on the comparable cost. I looked into doing that when my place was stained incorrectly but the rough price quote i got over the phone came in pretty close to what I spent on brand new cedar siding that was prestained. Plus they couldn't guarantee that they would be able to get all of the old pigment out so I would get the desired color i wanted. But I'm also more OCD than most on


Not the case ! Not at all. When I woke up the next morning, I realized that I "furred" up the logs by pressure washing it  :blush:

So, I spend the rest of the weekend hand sanding every single log with a air compressor & DA sander. Basically, just knocking the fur down on the logs. It went half way quick, but used 200 sanding discs and the compressor didn't shut off for 10 hours straight.

Ready for stain on 4th of July weekend (I bet my family can't wait to help me).

 :floor:
That must've been hell on earth... When you say furred do you mean like raised the grain and the once smooth logs now had little "hairs" of wood lifting up from the logs?
Not that it matters at this point, but ive used the following with decent results... It's still labor pretty labor intensive with brushing it on and washing off..
http://www.deckstainhelp.com/wolman%E2%84%A2-deckbrite%E2%84%A2-wood-cleaner-review/
https://www.rustoleum.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumUSA/TDS/English/CBG/Wolman/WOL-04_DeckBrite_TDS_082613.ashx

What are you putting up for a stain??
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on June 25, 2016, 05:34:06 PM
Thats what happens when a plumber tries do do woodwork. ;)
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on June 25, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
Thats what happens when a plumber tries do do woodwork. ;)

LOL... That's what happens when a plumber tries to do anything with wood!

Here we have a saying... A framers worst nightmare is a plumber with a saws all. 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 27, 2016, 07:10:25 AM
I'm sure you could hire someone to media blast it (corn cobs) for a reasonable price.
This seems to have a good reputation, though I'm not sure on the comparable cost. I looked into doing that when my place was stained incorrectly but the rough price quote i got over the phone came in pretty close to what I spent on brand new cedar siding that was prestained. Plus they couldn't guarantee that they would be able to get all of the old pigment out so I would get the desired color i wanted. But I'm also more OCD than most on


Not the case ! Not at all. When I woke up the next morning, I realized that I "furred" up the logs by pressure washing it  :blush:

So, I spend the rest of the weekend hand sanding every single log with a air compressor & DA sander. Basically, just knocking the fur down on the logs. It went half way quick, but used 200 sanding discs and the compressor didn't shut off for 10 hours straight.

Ready for stain on 4th of July weekend (I bet my family can't wait to help me).

 :floor:
That must've been hell on earth... When you say furred do you mean like raised the grain and the once smooth logs now had little "hairs" of wood lifting up from the logs?
Not that it matters at this point, but ive used the following with decent results... It's still labor pretty labor intensive with brushing it on and washing off..
http://www.deckstainhelp.com/wolman%E2%84%A2-deckbrite%E2%84%A2-wood-cleaner-review/
https://www.rustoleum.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumUSA/TDS/English/CBG/Wolman/WOL-04_DeckBrite_TDS_082613.ashx

What are you putting up for a stain??

Yes sir... It raised the grain on the wood. So I sanded it back down. Had to use a power plane in two spots b/c of some light damage to the logs (from water and or sunlight).

I'm using Sikkens Proluxe Rubbo stain. Did a fair amount of research on it, most people swear by it, although I did look into other products pretty good too. I'm going to hand apply it with a brush. I do have a Wagner sprayer, but I think I want to really work it into the work properly. Hoping not to re-stain this for a long while....



Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 27, 2016, 07:15:08 AM
I'm sure you could hire someone to media blast it (corn cobs) for a reasonable price.

Wayne, I "wood" have hired someone, but those local guys don't seem to give me the time of day. Not sure what it is up there, but they really don't care if they work or not. In 8 1/2 years of ownership, I've only been able to hire one contractor to do anything for me. As a result, I've learned how to do things I've never done before! I even installed my owner furnace, duct work and air conditioning system there. My wife and I joke around about retiring up there and me just doing side jobs for people (for extra cash), but she says I might be working more retired than I did beforehand... :blush:

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 27, 2016, 11:04:42 AM
Thats what happens when a plumber tries do do woodwork. ;)

LOL... That's what happens when a plumber tries to do anything with wood!

Here we have a saying... A framers worst nightmare is a plumber with a saws all.

I'm the exception to the rule. Generally speaking, I do a real good job installing new plumbing. As long as I can coordinate with other tradesmen and we can call out our bays, we're all good. It's when you need to retrofit something, or get creative .... that's when the wood's gotta go.  :devilsmiley:

Sawzalls are the best freak'n tools EVER invented !   :beer2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on June 27, 2016, 06:50:51 PM
Took on some spur of the moment projects.   At my mom's,  we cleaned the gutters on Sat., stained the deck for her today, and got some blinds to hang for her.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 28, 2016, 11:00:35 AM
Took on some spur of the moment projects.   At my mom's,  we cleaned the gutters on Sat., stained the deck for her today, and got some blinds to hang for her.

You're a good egg !
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on June 28, 2016, 03:53:13 PM
I'm sure you could hire someone to media blast it (corn cobs) for a reasonable price.
This seems to have a good reputation, though I'm not sure on the comparable cost. I looked into doing that when my place was stained incorrectly but the rough price quote i got over the phone came in pretty close to what I spent on brand new cedar siding that was prestained. Plus they couldn't guarantee that they would be able to get all of the old pigment out so I would get the desired color i wanted. But I'm also more OCD than most on


Not the case ! Not at all. When I woke up the next morning, I realized that I "furred" up the logs by pressure washing it  :blush:

So, I spend the rest of the weekend hand sanding every single log with a air compressor & DA sander. Basically, just knocking the fur down on the logs. It went half way quick, but used 200 sanding discs and the compressor didn't shut off for 10 hours straight.

Ready for stain on 4th of July weekend (I bet my family can't wait to help me).

 :floor:
That must've been hell on earth... When you say furred do you mean like raised the grain and the once smooth logs now had little "hairs" of wood lifting up from the logs?
Not that it matters at this point, but ive used the following with decent results... It's still labor pretty labor intensive with brushing it on and washing off..
http://www.deckstainhelp.com/wolman%E2%84%A2-deckbrite%E2%84%A2-wood-cleaner-review/
https://www.rustoleum.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumUSA/TDS/English/CBG/Wolman/WOL-04_DeckBrite_TDS_082613.ashx

What are you putting up for a stain??

Yes sir... It raised the grain on the wood. So I sanded it back down. Had to use a power plane in two spots b/c of some light damage to the logs (from water and or sunlight).

I'm using Sikkens Proluxe Rubbo stain. Did a fair amount of research on it, most people swear by it, although I did look into other products pretty good too. I'm going to hand apply it with a brush. I do have a Wagner sprayer, but I think I want to really work it into the work properly. Hoping not to re-stain this for a long while....

We used the Sikkens on our cabin... Very happy with the way it held up and the look we got from it. Great choice and if you had asked I would have recommended it.
Hand brushing is the way to go on any bare or stripped wood work it in real good and don't be afraid to use cheap brushes because you will ruin them working the Sikkens in. I went through 3-4 brushes doing our camp.

My theory on spraying a porous open grained surface is that the surface tension of the paint or stain traps air in the grain of the wood preventing good penetration. Unless the surface is smooth or sealed in some way they only way to paint is brush or roller.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on July 04, 2016, 04:21:46 PM
Took on some spur of the moment projects.   At my mom's,  we cleaned the gutters on Sat., stained the deck for her today, and got some blinds to hang for her.

You're a good egg !
Thanks greekboy!   We ended up having to put 2 coats of stain on the deck.  Also put a desk together for her and my son weed wacked the bank for her and trimmed some shrubs.   It was a "workcation".    :blink:  Back home for the 4th and some relaxation!!  B)
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on July 05, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
A little darker than I was hoping for, but for the most part she's close to being 100% complete.

Plan on wrapping the gutter line with brown aluminum rather than staining it.
If I can't find the right color aluminum wrap, stain it is.....

The Sikkens stain was amazing. It covered everything up great, only one coat. Hand brushed.
Also used 12 dark brown "Big Stretch" tubes of caulk anywhere I could to get rid of any gaps, voids or cracks in the logs. Worked out great.

Next project will be adding boulders to cover up the cement block foundation walls.
My wife is really pushing for it, and I think she's right.... Should look killer, once it's done. Now just gotta find the time to do it....  :blink:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on July 05, 2016, 02:56:59 PM
A little darker than I was hoping for, but for the most part she's close to being 100% complete.

Plan on wrapping the gutter line with brown aluminum rather than staining it.
If I can't find the right color aluminum wrap, stain it is.....

The Sikkens stain was amazing. It covered everything up great, only one coat. Hand brushed.
Also used 12 dark brown "Big Stretch" tubes of caulk anywhere I could to get rid of any gaps, voids or cracks in the logs. Worked out great.

Next project will be adding boulders to cover up the cement block foundation walls.
My wife is really pushing for it, and I think she's right.... Should look killer, once it's done. Now just gotta find the time to do it....  :blink:

Looks nice!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on July 07, 2016, 03:38:05 PM
Contractor meeting went bad..... 25% over budget..... Need to re-think my design....  :blink:

Got another contractor lined up to meet in early August. Hoping that this guy comes in with a better price.
I was hoping this thing would have been built by now, but time is ticking away and winter is fast approaching (yet again).

Getting a price on a storage unit for my boat. Thinking of getting that out of my hair for the winter and maybe this garage project will finally be resolved in late fall or early spring.

Just want two prices on a 3 car garage. Attached vs detached.
I know the attached garage adds some value to the cabin, but not sure what 100 linear feet of foundation is worth these days....

 

 

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 05, 2016, 08:33:38 AM
Contractor meeting went bad..... 25% over budget..... Need to re-think my design....  :blink:

Got another contractor lined up to meet in early August. Hoping that this guy comes in with a better price.
I was hoping this thing would have been built by now, but time is ticking away and winter is fast approaching (yet again).

Getting a price on a storage unit for my boat. Thinking of getting that out of my hair for the winter and maybe this garage project will finally be resolved in late fall or early spring.

Just want two prices on a 3 car garage. Attached vs detached.
I know the attached garage adds some value to the cabin, but not sure what 100 linear feet of foundation is worth these days....

 

 

Been 3 weeks.... Still waiting on that number....
Guy called this week with some questions and said that he was working on it, but no number yet......

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on August 05, 2016, 04:58:12 PM
I have had to repair the wife's clothes drying and clothes washer. Now my sister is having me repair her rear tine tiller. Parts are so expensive and it just doesn't pay to have someone else repair them. The dryer wasn't to had, about $40. The only thing wrong with the six year old washer were the bearings, but it came as a unit and had to replace the whole transmission. The cost ended up being nearly $300. The tiller is in pieces in the garage and needs two bearings, input pinion shaft and gear, and gasket. That cost is $162 and a couple of those parts are on backorder. Current shipping date of August 19th. Must be on a slow boat from China.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 06, 2016, 06:11:57 AM
I have been using repairclinic.com  for parts for almost everything for years. They are very reasonable and most items ship in a day or two. Appliances, Power Equipment, Tools, Etc.
Just had to replace the drive belt on my 30+ year old Craftsman belt sander Sears arts wanted $8 for a belt and $12.00 for S&H.
I got TWO from Repair Clinic for $12.00 shipped.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on August 06, 2016, 10:50:02 AM
I have been using repairclinic.com  for parts for almost everything for years. They are very reasonable and most items ship in a day or two. Appliances, Power Equipment, Tools, Etc.
Just had to replace the drive belt on my 30+ year old Craftsman belt sander Sears arts wanted $8 for a belt and $12.00 for S&H.
I got TWO from Repair Clinic for $12.00 shipped.
It is difficult to know which on line sources are the best, but they are all much cheaper than going to the local parts dealer.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 06, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
You need to shop around weighing the price Vs the shipping and delivery date sometimes you need to pay more if you need it faster! 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on August 07, 2016, 11:52:51 AM
You need to shop around weighing the price Vs the shipping and delivery date sometimes you need to pay more if you need it faster!
I had great luck with appliancepartsdirect. Got the parts right away. I originally ordered the wrong parts and had no problem getting credit. The current order is with searspartsdirect. I think the problem is that all rear tine tillers are manufactured by one manufacturer. I won't have all the parts until August 19th, and I ordered them on July 29th. Must be on a slow boat from China.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 17, 2016, 07:11:57 AM
Since the board is dead as hell, I figured I'd throw around some summer project discussions....

#1). Still working on my son's Jeep !
Thus far, we've replaced around $1,200 worth of parts on it. Battery, alternator, starter, water pump, belts, hoses, radiator, thermostat, valve cover gasket, idler wheels, belt tensioner, engine oil & filter, transmission oil and filter, blower motor, blower motor resistor, fan switch gauge pod, wiper motor, wiper blades, fuel pump, pump tank skid plate, front axle u-joints, shocks, front stabilizer shock, KC lights, fog lamps, coil packs, plugs, PCV valve, exhaust hangers and clamps, timing chain and windshield. 

Still need to do the front and rear drive shaft u-joints.
Minor frame rail rust repair.
Minor front fender rust repair.
Front and rear differential oil change.
Transfer case oil change.
Soft top replacement (he's on the hook for that $)
Front and rear brakes (don't need them for 1-2 more years).

Kid's applying for a summer job now. Rule is, he pays for gas and insurance once he turns 16 (if he wants to drive).

#2). Finally getting closer to building a garage up at the cabin. I have a decent guy lined up, trying to let myself actually let him do it rather than doing what I always do (do it myself). Truth is, I'm never happy with someone else's work. I'd hate to pay for a half ass job.... So, I need to drink 4-5 beers, where I don't give a shit anymore and actually just let someone else do it for me. I've come to the realization that I have almost NO time at all anymore. I barely have time to enjoy the cabin, let alone actually work on it.

#3). Need to stain the cabin, or hire someone for that too.


Last year, I think I had 10 or 12 items on my list, and only got 4-5 items completed. This year, I've decided to put 3 things on the list, in hopes of getting at least one thing done  :floor:

Seems like my life is a little upside down this summer. My project list is happening in reverse order, as #3 was completed first. I signed a contract for my addition for #2 this weekend and my son's jeep (item #1) hasn't been touched all summer - and it's developed a pretty big transmission leak over the past couple of months...

The cabin addition is exciting and making me nervous all at the same time. Been wanting to do this for the past 8 years. Finally found the right contractor, so I decided to pull the trigger on the deal. Only thing freaking me out is that college starts in 3 short years, and I hate spending money right now.... I'm in for permits and I need to get a variance approved to shorten a side set back line. Hoping to start digging in October  :punk:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on August 17, 2016, 09:47:53 PM
hopefully you will get it dug out before it freezes good.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on August 17, 2016, 09:50:42 PM
drywall is hung and taping/finishing is starting, gotta get the crew in for taping, found a guy who was a drywall guy who is semi retired and does side work.  :)  2 fans and de-humidifier going all night.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 29, 2016, 02:37:51 PM
Jeep project got REAL ugly over the weekend. For those of you that know Jeep TJ's (1997 - 2006 ?) - you would know that frame rust is pretty bad on these Jeeps... Basically two places to look at, when buying one...

#1. The frame where the transmission skid plate touches the frame.
#2. The frame where the rear suspension attaches to the frame.

In my case, only the skid plate area was bad, but MUCH worse off than I thought it would be. I watched a few youtube videos and it looked pretty straight forward. Basically, cut out the bottom section of frame rails. Section in a piece of steel, weld some nuts into it for the skid plate, etc.... The previous owner had installed some temporary straps to hold the skid plate in place. I had to cut those off and go to town on the frame rails.

The rails were so bad, the skid plate just fell off !

Here are some pics. Don't make fun of the welds. I actually stacked them, like a pipe fitter would.... I burned the seem, then burned either side of it and grinded it down. Finished off with some primer and tar / rubber based undercoating...

 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 29, 2016, 02:38:49 PM
Mo pics...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 29, 2016, 02:40:39 PM
Drivers side was actually worse off. Frame had a factory bend to it, so I needed to section off that in two pieces, then I made a gusset to go over all of it. Welding the crap out of it all, afterwards...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 29, 2016, 02:42:16 PM
Gotta cut off (2) body mounts too. These are real easy in comparison to the frame rails.... You can see in the pics where the rubber body mounts have pushed threw the floor boards. Hoping to get that going this week or weekend.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on August 29, 2016, 09:46:58 PM
get fireball out there with his plasma cutter...  :) 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 30, 2016, 06:56:56 AM
get fireball out there with his plasma cutter...  :)

I had access to a plasma cutter, but on the Drivers side there were 2 brake likes and a fuel line within 1" of my cutting area. I got lucky that I didn't need to move them, nor did I damage them while I was cutting, grinding or welding..
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on September 05, 2016, 09:20:56 PM
kinda looking like one of them cable tv car fix it shows - isnt one called junkyard resurrections or something like that
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on September 06, 2016, 11:16:05 AM
I ordered parts on July 29th for my sisters Craftsman rear tine tiller. Sears has still not sent me all the parts yet and can't get a straight answer on when they will come. I can see why Sears is in trouble and trying to sell the Craftsman and Kenmore brands.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 06, 2016, 01:23:50 PM
kinda looking like one of them cable tv car fix it shows - isnt one called junkyard resurrections or something like that

I call welding "electric caulk"  :blush:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 07, 2016, 05:58:16 AM
I ordered parts on July 29th for my sisters Craftsman rear tine tiller. Sears has still not sent me all the parts yet and can't get a straight answer on when they will come. I can see why Sears is in trouble and trying to sell the Craftsman and Kenmore brands.

Repairclinic.com or E-parts.com are the best parts suppliers.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 07, 2016, 07:17:09 AM
My wife and I got a 500 sq ft deck stained over the weekend  :punk: Wish I could rest, but this weekend I need to relocate my stainless steel stove pipe at the cabin, due to the addition..... Doing all that solo, brought a fall harness, just in case I slip off that metal deck....   :eek:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on September 07, 2016, 12:25:01 PM
I ordered parts on July 29th for my sisters Craftsman rear tine tiller. Sears has still not sent me all the parts yet and can't get a straight answer on when they will come. I can see why Sears is in trouble and trying to sell the Craftsman and Kenmore brands.

Repairclinic.com or E-parts.com are the best parts suppliers.
T
I wish I would have known that six weeks ago. The input shaft just arrived today, but still waiting for the input shaft pinion gear. One message from August 30 says the part will arrive in 5-7 business days. The last message says it is temporarily out of stock.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 12, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
My wife and I got a 500 sq ft deck stained over the weekend  :punk: Wish I could rest, but this weekend I need to relocate my stainless steel stove pipe at the cabin, due to the addition..... Doing all that solo, brought a fall harness, just in case I slip off that metal deck....   :eek:

Stainless steel stove pipe project didn't go so well..... Ended up falling, well actually jumping off the extension ladder.... I had used a rope to pull the pipe upwards and slowly lower it with the use of the ladder..... Everything was going really well, until a joint came apart while I was on the ladder and I noticed that 1/2 the smoke stack was going to fall on top of me. So I jumped off and did a few cartwheels. I ended up jacking my bad shoulder pretty well, where I really couldn't do much more work for the entire weekend. Besides almost breaking my neck, I also ruined around $400 worth of piping. All the stuff I don't need is in perfect condition, all the stuff I actually needed to relocate got ruined  :bye1:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on September 12, 2016, 01:40:36 PM
My wife and I got a 500 sq ft deck stained over the weekend  :punk: Wish I could rest, but this weekend I need to relocate my stainless steel stove pipe at the cabin, due to the addition..... Doing all that solo, brought a fall harness, just in case I slip off that metal deck....   :eek:

Stainless steel stove pipe project didn't go so well..... Ended up falling, well actually jumping off the extension ladder.... I had used a rope to pull the pipe upwards and slowly lower it with the use of the ladder..... Everything was going really well, until a joint came apart while I was on the ladder and I noticed that 1/2 the smoke stack was going to fall on top of me. So I jumped off and did a few cartwheels. I ended up jacking my bad shoulder pretty well, where I really couldn't do much more work for the entire weekend. Besides almost breaking my neck, I also ruined around $400 worth of piping. All the stuff I don't need is in perfect condition, all the stuff I actually needed to relocate got ruined  :bye1:
Sorry to hear you got bagged up Chuck.  :thumbdown:

I threw my back out a couple weeks ago and it is just now getting normal again. I do it about once a year and it has always cleared up in a day or two. I went to a Dr. after about 4 days into it this time. She said you are getting older and it is going to take longer now. Geez, in one year it went from 2 days to 14 days. I can hardly wait for next year!

Anyway another good reason to hire a professional for those things. Wait, you are a professional!

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on September 12, 2016, 01:45:44 PM
Ok, Late summer project here. Wife wants a pool and they are all on sale this time of year. Just looking for some recommendations on 24ft round above ground pools. I see steel, resin and aluminum. Steel scares me for corrosion reasons. Most of the resin ones have steel walls. 50 yr and lifetime warranty on the walls but it is pro-rated so you still pay. I like the all aluminum idea but cant find any in my area.
Any suggestions/experiences out there?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 12, 2016, 02:44:50 PM
Ok, Late summer project here. Wife wants a pool and they are all on sale this time of year. Just looking for some recommendations on 24ft round above ground pools. I see steel, resin and aluminum. Steel scares me for corrosion reasons. Most of the resin ones have steel walls. 50 yr and lifetime warranty on the walls but it is pro-rated so you still pay. I like the all aluminum idea but cant find any in my area.
Any suggestions/experiences out there?

Pools are almost as bad as boats....  :pipe1:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on September 12, 2016, 08:19:02 PM
get a nice spa and call it good... :)
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 14, 2016, 05:32:30 AM
My wife wanted a pool years ago... I told her when she has the money to PAY someone to maintain it she cold have one. Still no pool.
On the upside we had a cabin, sleds, and motorcycles.
Check into local codes and your homeowners insurance... the pool is not the only expense with owning a pool.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 16, 2016, 08:09:30 AM
My wife and I got a 500 sq ft deck stained over the weekend  :punk: Wish I could rest, but this weekend I need to relocate my stainless steel stove pipe at the cabin, due to the addition..... Doing all that solo, brought a fall harness, just in case I slip off that metal deck....   :eek:

Stainless steel stove pipe project didn't go so well..... Ended up falling, well actually jumping off the extension ladder.... I had used a rope to pull the pipe upwards and slowly lower it with the use of the ladder..... Everything was going really well, until a joint came apart while I was on the ladder and I noticed that 1/2 the smoke stack was going to fall on top of me. So I jumped off and did a few cartwheels. I ended up jacking my bad shoulder pretty well, where I really couldn't do much more work for the entire weekend. Besides almost breaking my neck, I also ruined around $400 worth of piping. All the stuff I don't need is in perfect condition, all the stuff I actually needed to relocate got ruined  :bye1:

This is the smoke stack that almost fell on my head. Damn piping is heavy weight stuff.
Now that it's down and I've purchased the damaged material, need to go back up in 2 weeks and relocate the stack through the main roof of the cabin. Bringing a friend next time around for safety purposes....  :smoke:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 16, 2016, 06:47:41 PM
Are you going to bring it out and up through the eave or straight through the roof from inside the wall? With all of the horizontal run I see plus what is inside before elbowing down the draft has to be pretty poor. Shortening up the lateral will help but best draft is straight up out of the stove.
I would say with the lateral you have there you need twice as much height on that stack to work properly.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 19, 2016, 07:24:02 AM
Are you going to bring it out and up through the eave or straight through the roof from inside the wall? With all of the horizontal run I see plus what is inside before elbowing down the draft has to be pretty poor. Shortening up the lateral will help but best draft is straight up out of the stove.
I would say with the lateral you have there you need twice as much height on that stack to work properly.


The new plan is to go straight through the roof (might have (2) 45's). I purchased a Selkirk rubber boot flashing kit (it's a special boot used for corrugated metal roofs). I got all the components to make it happen. A special insulator that goes around the insulation. Stainless double wall pipe for the attic space and up through the roof. Thinking of changing the entire wood stove to a smaller unit. My current stove is huge and very old and isn't very efficient (I'm sure of that). A new model with gaskets and such, would make a big difference in that space. Need to get it closer to the outside wall and space some floor space. I'm doing some research right now to figure out how to lay it all out. Going back up there next weekend to get the new stack in place. Not sure if I'll have the new wood stove by then, but I will get the old one relocated and get it up and running for the up coming sled season.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 19, 2016, 02:46:15 PM
I'll post a link later with a Vermont Castings stove manual that details how to build out a wall heat shield for their catalyst stoves that get very hot but often it is the connector pipe that dictates larger clearance. If you use single wall stovepipe you need 18-24 inches from a combustible wall but if you use double wall stovepipe you can get down to 6" if your stove allows.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 19, 2016, 03:07:08 PM
I'll post a link later with a Vermont Castings stove manual that details how to build out a wall heat shield for their catalyst stoves that get very hot but often it is the connector pipe that dictates larger clearance. If you use single wall stovepipe you need 18-24 inches from a combustible wall but if you use double wall stovepipe you can get down to 6" if your stove allows.

Thank you ! I could use all the direction I can get.
Planned on building a metal stud wall with durarock and fake boulders to protect the log wall and to shield the heat towards the open area of the room. Hoping to put that wall 1" away to the log wall and 1" off the floor for proper air space. Then have the proper distance to the wood stove, from there. The wood stove mfnr mentioned 15" clearance on single wall and 10" on double wall pipe, but I typically play it safe on that stuff and add some distance to make sure all is well....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 20, 2016, 06:54:24 AM
That is exactly what Vermont castings does 1" airspace with 1" space at the floor and the top to allow airflow. I usually just lay a 2X4 on the floor and use that as a spacer and pull it out when done. You may want to shim it up just so it doesn't get locked in from the weight.
I use what we call "Hat Track" which is metal furring strips.

(http://www.clarkdietrich.com/sites/default/files/imce/images/products/Framing-Interior/FurringChannel/FurringChannel2.jpg)

http://www.manualsdir.com/manuals/60583/vermont-casting-0968-1910.html
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on September 20, 2016, 10:42:10 AM
I'll post a link later with a Vermont Castings stove manual that details how to build out a wall heat shield for their catalyst stoves that get very hot but often it is the connector pipe that dictates larger clearance. If you use single wall stovepipe you need 18-24 inches from a combustible wall but if you use double wall stovepipe you can get down to 6" if your stove allows.

Thank you ! I could use all the direction I can get.
Planned on building a metal stud wall with durarock and fake boulders to protect the log wall and to shield the heat towards the open area of the room. Hoping to put that wall 1" away to the log wall and 1" off the floor for proper air space. Then have the proper distance to the wood stove, from there. The wood stove mfnr mentioned 15" clearance on single wall and 10" on double wall pipe, but I typically play it safe on that stuff and add some distance to make sure all is well....
Just asking the question, but did you give any thought to an LP fireplace with fans to circulate air? 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 20, 2016, 01:41:51 PM
I'll post a link later with a Vermont Castings stove manual that details how to build out a wall heat shield for their catalyst stoves that get very hot but often it is the connector pipe that dictates larger clearance. If you use single wall stovepipe you need 18-24 inches from a combustible wall but if you use double wall stovepipe you can get down to 6" if your stove allows.

Thank you ! I could use all the direction I can get.
Planned on building a metal stud wall with durarock and fake boulders to protect the log wall and to shield the heat towards the open area of the room. Hoping to put that wall 1" away to the log wall and 1" off the floor for proper air space. Then have the proper distance to the wood stove, from there. The wood stove mfnr mentioned 15" clearance on single wall and 10" on double wall pipe, but I typically play it safe on that stuff and add some distance to make sure all is well....
Just asking the question, but did you give any thought to an LP fireplace with fans to circulate air?

For my application.... I think the wood stove is the cheapest solution.
Phantom, in my case.... During the dead of winter. I heat my cabin at 45 degrees (with a Lennox forced air 240 volt electric air handler). When I arrive for a sled trip, I basically light the fire in the wood stove and bring it up to temp, then I turn on the fan on the heater to rotate the hot air throughout. We continue to run the wood stove for the duration of the weekend, but will turn up the electric heat to 70 degrees while we're out riding. When we return, we typically light the wood stove again to minimize heating costs.

Currently the cabin is tiny. 600 sq. ft. with a 250 sq. ft. addition planned this fall. Even a tiny wood stove can handle 1,000 sq. ft. Burning wood is free and I have plenty of it throughout the property.

The LP heater I plan to install will be in the new 550 sq. ft. garage addition  :blush:
For the garage, the Hot Dawg model LP unit heater has a sealed combustion chamber. It heats a garage area very quickly and is the safest option for the garage. The GC is installing a insulated overhead garage door, but I will need to insulate and vapor barrier the ceiling and outside walls.

Only REAL downside to LP is $
More efficient than electric heat, but still a very expensive endeavor, at $1,200 to $1,500 LP tank fill ups.

Side note:
I have considered a pellet stove for the main cabin, but I'm not sure how long it would take to heat 850 sq ft from 45 degrees to 70 degrees, with the pellet stove on full blast...
Then, I'd need to buy pellets and it still runs off electric - so they tend to have mechanical problems over time, if you're not good at cleaning it all the time....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 21, 2016, 08:32:31 PM
I hate pellet stoves to the point that I have discontinued servicing them.
 Problem is inconsistent quality of fuel and over complication of the stoves to make up for the inconsistent quality of the fuel.
Many pellets are of inconsistent size so the stove manufacturers have come up with a "chopper" to cut the pellets to consistent size. Another problem waiting to happen. When they are working well and have good fuel they work well but hardly efficient dollar wise compared to wood IF you are cutting and splitting your own.
The best pellet stoves are the simpler ones of 10-15 years ago or older. As long as they were cleaned out regularly they are still working well with minimal problem.
My cabin was unheated when were were not there and the wood stove was the only heat except for a wall mount "Blue Flame" heater that we used only a handfull of times. When we got to camp we lit the stove and it never shut down until after we left. I ran that stove or 4-6 weeks straight when I was there for the winter. A good stove set up right will run 8/10 hours before going cold enough to require a relight. Most of the time the embers left were enough to rekindle and blaze a full fire after 10 hours of being unattended.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on September 22, 2016, 08:35:07 AM
I hate pellet stoves to the point that I have discontinued servicing them.
 Problem is inconsistent quality of fuel and over complication of the stoves to make up for the inconsistent quality of the fuel.
Many pellets are of inconsistent size so the stove manufacturers have come up with a "chopper" to cut the pellets to consistent size. Another problem waiting to happen. When they are working well and have good fuel they work well but hardly efficient dollar wise compared to wood IF you are cutting and splitting your own.
The best pellet stoves are the simpler ones of 10-15 years ago or older. As long as they were cleaned out regularly they are still working well with minimal problem.
My cabin was unheated when were were not there and the wood stove was the only heat except for a wall mount "Blue Flame" heater that we used only a handfull of times. When we got to camp we lit the stove and it never shut down until after we left. I ran that stove or 4-6 weeks straight when I was there for the winter. A good stove set up right will run 8/10 hours before going cold enough to require a relight. Most of the time the embers left were enough to rekindle and blaze a full fire after 10 hours of being unattended.

What I like about a wood stove is..... no electric still provides heat. A few winters ago, some ice fell from the trees and took out the power along the road. We were without power for 7 hours. It was around -20F and the cabin was at +72F all day long  :beer2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on September 25, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
sounds like a good quality wood stove (maybe soapstone, if you can afford it).  Those things pump out heat for a long time. 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 03, 2016, 01:22:02 PM
Phase 2 of wood stove project is complete. This really sucked. The flashing kit was poorly built and the instructions were spotty. Didn't mention that the couplings wouldn't fit through the sleeve provided (as the flashing kit was a different manufacture than the stainless steel stove pipe). Took some "messing with" to get it in. Didn't start RAINING until I cut a 12" diameter hole in the roof  :ranting: Standing on metal deck while it's raining with a pretty aggressive roof pitch wasn't my idea of fun, but it got done and I guess that's all that matters... No one got hurt, it got done and my beer is ALL gone....

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 03, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
GB, I envy you having a place to go to to sled out of. I don't envy the cost or the work needed to upkeep, or upgrade. I should have done this back in the early 80's. Now I am content to motel it.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 03, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
GB, I envy you having a place to go to to sled out of. I don't envy the cost or the work needed to upkeep, or upgrade. I should have done this back in the early 80's. Now I am content to motel it.

There are pro's and con's to everything in life. Doing the addition right now is BAD timing, as college is coming down the road in 2 years and my work still hasn't rebounded since 9/11 timeline. However, I guess I really just enjoy being up there. I think that place will make me live longer. I hope to spend more time up there when the kids are out of the house and I can enjoy it more so. I know the kids love it up there and I hope that they will make use of it when they get older as well.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 03, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
You should be proud GB. You are giving your kids something to enjoy now and in the future. Their future time there will have good memories to reflect on also. You are a good dad.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 04, 2016, 11:16:42 AM
You should be proud GB. You are giving your kids something to enjoy now and in the future. Their future time there will have good memories to reflect on also. You are a good dad.

Thanks RD, you are as well.  :beer2:
It's not rocket science, just spend time with them (doesn't need to be off the wall stuff, just hanging out works too). When I lost my dad 2 years ago, nothing needed to be said prior. I was lucky to have done all the fun stuff with my dad (hunting, fishing, dirt bikes, camping, etc) and we even worked together for several years. Hard not to know a guy after all that time spent together.

Damn... I'm the Greek version of Dr. Phil. Maybe a cross between Dr. Phil and Jerry Springer....  :floor:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 05, 2016, 04:57:05 AM
RD & GB I just got back from vacation last night and I think I went through both of your stomping grounds up North. Stayed a few days in Minocqua and a few more in Marquette. Drove through both Arbor Vitae and Crystal Falls. You can't beat the Northwoods in the Summer either! :thumbsupsmileyanim:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 05, 2016, 11:46:17 AM
Agreed Howie. We went up Memorial Day weekend but not since. Firt time in 5 years or so no summer northwoods. I might go up in a week or so with hunting buds that are checking on their spots I quess. Probably just a drinking excuse. I might as well go, no playoff baseball worth watching this year.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 05, 2016, 12:41:07 PM
RD & GB I just got back from vacation last night and I think I went through both of your stomping grounds up North. Stayed a few days in Minocqua and a few more in Marquette. Drove through both Arbor Vitae and Crystal Falls. You can't beat the Northwoods in the Summer either! :thumbsupsmileyanim:

This time of the year up there is amazing. All the fall colors kicking in, nice sweatshirt / bonfire weather  :beer2: Just can't beat it....
Hoping my roof and tyvek get up before the snow starts to fly.... We're getting close to winter starting up, as I've seen it snow as early as Halloween up there....

 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 05, 2016, 12:44:07 PM
Agreed Howie. We went up Memorial Day weekend but not since. Firt time in 5 years or so no summer northwoods. I might go up in a week or so with hunting buds that are checking on their spots I quess. Probably just a drinking excuse. I might as well go, no playoff baseball worth watching this year.

That's right, You're NOT a Cubs fan.....  :blush:
Me either, I lean towards the South side, but still happy if "boyz town" breaks the curse of the billygoat....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 06, 2016, 07:26:29 AM
Excavator dug for foundations and the footings should be in today. Hoping to get the foundation walls in by Monday or Tuesday next week. Framers start the week of October 17th  :punk:

I wish I had a camera set up or something. It's killing me knowing that work is being done and I can't judge their work, LOL..... Maybe its all for the best....  :blush:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on October 07, 2016, 01:05:44 PM
it's just concrete, how good does it have to be..   :mf_w00t2: :nono:

I'm just messing with you, I know exactly how good it needs to be..

Maybe have your contractor send you pics every day or so..
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 07, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
it's just concrete, how good does it have to be..   :mf_w00t2: :nono:

I'm just messing with you, I know exactly how good it needs to be..

Maybe have your contractor send you pics every day or so..

Just got the "good news", "bad news" phone call. As you might guess, bad news typically means more $

Foundation walls are in  :thumbsupsmileyanim: Concrete trucks ruined parts of the driveway and sank in the front lawn. Need to get the excavator to dress up the front yard and drive way at an added cost.... Concrete guy still needs to pour the flat work, so I hope to wait until all the heavy equipment has left for good  :'(
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on October 07, 2016, 07:38:27 PM
sucks, but, what are you gonna do, them concrete trucks are heavier than an RX-1 ton...   :nana:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on October 07, 2016, 07:55:40 PM
it's just concrete, how good does it have to be..   :mf_w00t2: :nono:

I'm just messing with you, I know exactly how good it needs to be..

Maybe have your contractor send you pics every day or so..

Just got the "good news", "bad news" phone call. As you might guess, bad news typically means more $

Foundation walls are in  :thumbsupsmileyanim: Concrete trucks ruined parts of the driveway and sank in the front lawn. Need to get the excavator to dress up the front yard and drive way at an added cost.... Concrete guy still needs to pour the flat work, so I hope to wait until all the heavy equipment has left for good  :'(

They should have had enough sense to lay down plywood, mats or cribbing to minimize the damage. That is a given on jobs here "All damage shall be restored to pre-construction condition"... Standard contract agreement. When it's on their dime they are far more careful.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 09, 2016, 06:10:23 AM
it's just concrete, how good does it have to be..   :mf_w00t2: :nono:

I'm just messing with you, I know exactly how good it needs to be..

Maybe have your contractor send you pics every day or so..

Just got the "good news", "bad news" phone call. As you might guess, bad news typically means more $

Foundation walls are in  :thumbsupsmileyanim: Concrete trucks ruined parts of the driveway and sank in the front lawn. Need to get the excavator to dress up the front yard and drive way at an added cost.... Concrete guy still needs to pour the flat work, so I hope to wait until all the heavy equipment has left for good  :'(

They should have had enough sense to lay down plywood, mats or cribbing to minimize the damage. That is a given on jobs here "All damage shall be restored to pre-construction condition"... Standard contract agreement. When it's on their dime they are far more careful.

 :floor: Around here the "Standard Contract" says they are not responsible for any damage to yards caused by their equipment.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 09, 2016, 07:26:24 AM
Concrete pump or wheel barrow it, regardless of cost.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on October 09, 2016, 10:24:24 AM
nothing a bobcat and some fill can't resolve pretty quick I hope.  I don't think GB has anything important underneath that side of the cabin.. But, yes, that does suck.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 10, 2016, 07:15:32 AM
It's around 100 yards from the blacktop road to the addition. Not sure what kind of $ we're talking about, just yet....
Didn't help that it rained around 4 inches in two days time. One concrete truck got stuck in my front lawn. Thankfully the backhoe they used to dig for the foundation was still onsite and they were able to keep the pour rolling....

The concrete work turned out great. Still need to backfill the void with sand and pour the flat work. He's installing a floor drain in the garage bay and saw cutting relief cuts into the slab after he's done. Really a nice job, just need to get'r done ASAP with winter approaching now...

Did I mention that it's KILLING me, not being able to get there for 3 more weeks.  :(

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 12, 2016, 06:30:48 AM
It's around 100 yards from the blacktop road to the addition. Not sure what kind of $ we're talking about, just yet....
Didn't help that it rained around 4 inches in two days time. One concrete truck got stuck in my front lawn. Thankfully the backhoe they used to dig for the foundation was still onsite and they were able to keep the pour rolling....

The concrete work turned out great. Still need to backfill the void with sand and pour the flat work. He's installing a floor drain in the garage bay and saw cutting relief cuts into the slab after he's done. Really a nice job, just need to get'r done ASAP with winter approaching now...

Did I mention that it's KILLING me, not being able to get there for 3 more weeks.  :(
Looks nice! Planning a garage door on the backside too it looks like. Best thing I did when I built my garage.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 12, 2016, 07:37:43 AM
It's around 100 yards from the blacktop road to the addition. Not sure what kind of $ we're talking about, just yet....
Didn't help that it rained around 4 inches in two days time. One concrete truck got stuck in my front lawn. Thankfully the backhoe they used to dig for the foundation was still onsite and they were able to keep the pour rolling....

The concrete work turned out great. Still need to backfill the void with sand and pour the flat work. He's installing a floor drain in the garage bay and saw cutting relief cuts into the slab after he's done. Really a nice job, just need to get'r done ASAP with winter approaching now...

Did I mention that it's KILLING me, not being able to get there for 3 more weeks.  :(
Looks nice! Planning a garage door on the backside too it looks like. Best thing I did when I built my garage.

Yes sir  :beer2:
Figured, I'm not getting any younger and pulling on bumpers, shuffling things around just sucks after a while. So, why not drive in / drive out...  :biggrin: In the summer time, I can use it for the boat and switch over in the winter time for the sleds. Front over head door will be 16x7 and the back one will be 9x7. Floor slab is getting a floor drain too, which will help out with the snow melt. Planning on putting an LP garage unit heater inside there once things get finished up later on in life. Both doors are insulated and I plan on insulating the heck out of this addition with R38 in the ceiling and R19 in the walls. The bedrooms will get forced air heat / AC (Just ordered all the duct work yesterday). I'm just hoping the GC gets her under roof ASAP, I really don't plan on doing much there over the winter. Hoping to kick it off in the spring time. On the outside, I will be installing the log siding (very expensive). I will also be finishing up the inside on my own as well. Hoping to get a good head start on it before travel baseball gets rolling in late April / early May. 

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 12, 2016, 10:00:04 AM
 GB. I could spend a few weeks there as your GF. Requirements, stocked liquor cab,Bud Light filled frig. Heat and running water. T bones,ribeyes,filets,eggs,potatoes,and Bacon of course  :hypocrite:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on October 12, 2016, 07:58:37 PM
get reverse on those sleds...  :)   :mf_laughbounce2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 13, 2016, 07:16:46 AM
get reverse on those sleds...  :)   :mf_laughbounce2:

3 out of 4 have reverse. Just looking for ease of living... Also a nice place to hang out during the rain, etc. Only draw back to adding the door is loosing shelving space along the wall.
Once I have this thing finished up, I'll need to see how much room I have to NEW toys....  :blush: Two car garage is much smaller than my original plan. Due to zoning I had to make the garage smaller.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on October 15, 2016, 08:50:26 AM
I thought you were just adding a garage......looks like your attaching a new house w/all the amenities.  sweet!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 17, 2016, 11:18:11 AM
I thought you were just adding a garage......looks like your attaching a new house w/all the amenities.  sweet!

LOL, lots of "might as wells" being said always makes a project bigger (and more expensive).
This is phase 1, hoping in 3-5 more years to add onto the other side of the cabin. Need one more bedroom and another 2 car garage  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 17, 2016, 12:58:36 PM
Few more pics...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on October 18, 2016, 04:21:27 PM
Hopefully snow is better this year - me and the lads need to get over there
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 19, 2016, 09:47:16 AM
Hopefully snow is better this year - me and the lads need to get over there

The UP is getting a HUGE amount of rain this fall. It's totally screwing up my build site. They got 3" of rain in 2 hours yesterday. Flooded my already screwed up site and is going to push my flat work (floor slab pour) back a week, which will push my walls back 1-2 weeks, etc. Throw hunting season into the mix and I'm really pushing the timeline now  :banghead:

Hoping all the rain will turn to snow come December. Plan on taking a week off between Christmas and New Years again this year.
It would be great if we can get the boys together again for a ride.  :punk:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 24, 2016, 09:59:45 AM
Well my summer project ended up being a fall project. What can I say. They are half price in the fall. I'm cheap I guess! :nana:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 24, 2016, 10:29:26 AM
Well my summer project ended up being a fall project. What can I say. They are half price in the fall. I'm cheap I guess! :nana:

Thats one hell of a beer cooler!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 24, 2016, 11:51:24 AM
Ya over 13,000 gallons! 55 degrees, tried to get the wife to try it out but no go!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 24, 2016, 01:13:45 PM
Well my summer project ended up being a fall project. What can I say. They are half price in the fall. I'm cheap I guess! :nana:

At least you don't have tons of trees hanging over the top of it. Should be fun 3 months out of the year....  :stirthepot:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on October 24, 2016, 01:56:00 PM
Well my summer project ended up being a fall project. What can I say. They are half price in the fall. I'm cheap I guess! :nana:
Looks good!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 24, 2016, 02:31:01 PM
Hopefully snow is better this year - me and the lads need to get over there

The UP is getting a HUGE amount of rain this fall. It's totally screwing up my build site. They got 3" of rain in 2 hours yesterday. Flooded my already screwed up site and is going to push my flat work (floor slab pour) back a week, which will push my walls back 1-2 weeks, etc. Throw hunting season into the mix and I'm really pushing the timeline now  :banghead:

Hoping all the rain will turn to snow come December. Plan on taking a week off between Christmas and New Years again this year.
It would be great if we can get the boys together again for a ride.  :punk:

My saga continues. Wet / flooded conditions is causing a huge delay in my time line....

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 24, 2016, 03:18:04 PM
more flooding pics...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 25, 2016, 12:51:00 PM
Have howie go pump it out. Free water for his new pool :devilsmiley:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 25, 2016, 02:29:13 PM
Have howie go pump it out. Free water for his new pool :devilsmiley:

I can't wait to show up at Howie's house with my Borat swimsuit.....  :blush:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on October 25, 2016, 07:12:38 PM
Have howie go pump it out. Free water for his new pool :devilsmiley:

I can't wait to show up at Howie's house with my Borat swimsuit.....  :blush:

 

I had no idea what that meant till I googled it   :eek:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 27, 2016, 09:07:40 AM
Have howie go pump it out. Free water for his new pool :devilsmiley:

I can't wait to show up at Howie's house with my Borat swimsuit.....  :blush:
Ya right!  :eek:
I filled it up with the hose. Only took a couple days running it on a few hours and off a few. Got a little sand in it from my well. Then the install company owner stopped by to check it out and asked why I didn't buy a couple of the little filters for the end of the hose that people with wells should use. Sure wish the sales person or one of the install guys would have told me when I bought it. He knew I was on a well. :banghead:

So why did you buy that swamp land in the U.P? LOL JK
I love it up there too. It was almost at peak colors when I went through Crystal Falls a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on October 27, 2016, 09:56:59 AM
Have howie go pump it out. Free water for his new pool :devilsmiley:

I can't wait to show up at Howie's house with my Borat swimsuit.....  :blush:
Ya right!  :eek:
I filled it up with the hose. Only took a couple days running it on a few hours and off a few. Got a little sand in it from my well. Then the install company owner stopped by to check it out and asked why I didn't buy a couple of the little filters for the end of the hose that people with wells should use. Sure wish the sales person or one of the install guys would have told me when I bought it. He knew I was on a well. :banghead:

So why did you buy that swamp land in the U.P? LOL JK
I love it up there too. It was almost at peak colors when I went through Crystal Falls a couple weeks ago.

Oddly enough, I've never had standing water on the property in the 8-9 years of ownership. If it continues, I'm going to steal your pool liner and just make a nice pond in the front yard - where I can wear my Borat swimsuit more often....

Snow flurries up there today. Hoping they can get the flat work poured today or tomorrow so I'll have something to look at this weekend. Doing a quick over night run to check the progress out and verify the change orders $ were warranted. I.e, I paid for 8 semi loads of stone and I'd like to see 8 semi loads of stone spread.... Also bringing some spare sump pumps to pump out any standing water in an effort to dry the place out...

It's very stressful being 6 hours away from something I'd typically want to be more part of. Maybe it's for the best, I'd most likely just piss off the workers if I was around more often.  :hypocrite:



Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on October 27, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
I'd most likely just piss off the workers if I was around more often.  :hypocrite:
HAHA, that's been me going through this pool process. Concrete, pool dig, install and now landscapers. I've been bugging them all! :thumbsupsmileyanim:
If you don't who knows what you will end up with!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 02, 2016, 03:09:35 PM
Thus far, a 3 week delay in the build. I ran up there to check things out last weekend, only to find the property was still REALLY wet and I don't want to chance the concrete trucks messing up the new stone work. The excavator was able to back fill around the foundations and fill in the interior of the foundations with sand. He compacted everything, installed the floor drain, plastic, rebar and wire mesh. Would have been a perfect opportunity to install some pex tubing to heat the concrete floors, but I lost all motivation after running to Home Depot only to find coils of pex 25 feet long. Not wanting to join them with couplings inside the floor slab, I decided just to toss the whole idea out....

Hoping the floor slab gets poured this week, so framing can start end of the week or early next week. Hoping to get back up there the weekend after Thanksgiving to check things out again... It really sucks being 5-6 hours away... Hopefully it will all be worth it when its done....

 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 08, 2016, 02:14:37 PM
My "Summer Projects" title has turned into a fall and winter project now....

Floor slab got poured mid-week. Excavator did some final grading around the cabin and threw down more stone on the driveway and garage door ramps. Wall framing starts TODAY  :punk:
Of course, hunting season starts next week (delay) and Thanksgiving is the week after (more delays). Right about then, that super cold winter vortex they keep talking about will kick in and cause even more delays... In any case, pretty damn excited to see wood going up after the site has been untouched for 3 weeks.  :thumbsupsmileyanim:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on November 08, 2016, 03:21:31 PM
pretty damn excited to see wood going up after the site has been untouched for 3 weeks.  :thumbsupsmileyanim:

Time for Pornos and Cheetos yellow hand
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 08, 2016, 04:01:37 PM
pretty damn excited to see wood going up after the site has been untouched for 3 weeks.  :thumbsupsmileyanim:

Time for Pornos and Cheetos yellow hand

It's like you have a window into my soul. You know me so well .....  :P
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 09, 2016, 08:32:03 AM
Wood is good. Framing started yesterday.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 09, 2016, 05:09:53 PM
Slamming the wood !  :banana:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 09, 2016, 05:11:00 PM
mo pics
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 09, 2016, 05:12:23 PM
last few... still need to get the cathedral trusses in place over the bedrooms.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on November 09, 2016, 10:07:06 PM
the addition is bigger than the cabin!!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on November 10, 2016, 06:51:02 AM
the addition is bigger than the cabin!!

Garage should ALWAYS be bigger than the house... Design rule #1... Proportion!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 10, 2016, 08:21:04 AM
the addition is bigger than the cabin!!

It actually is bigger  :rolleyes:
Addition is 750 sq. ft.
Cabin is only 600 sq. ft.

Most of the addition is the garage though....
These guys are doing such a great job, I might do another addition on the other side of the cabin in 2-3 years. Add a 3rd bedroom and mud room at the front door.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on November 10, 2016, 08:22:16 AM
looks sweet      really put a lot up in 2 days
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 11, 2016, 01:21:50 PM
Framing is 100% complete now. Still need to sheet the outside walls, tyvek, doors & windows. Also need the metal deck going to keep her water tight ASAP  :punk: These guys rocked this out very quickly. It almost makes me want to sell the cabin and have them build me a whole new house somewhere else  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 11, 2016, 01:22:47 PM
Back door money shot....
Going to be really nice to drive in / drive out  :thumbsupsmileyanim:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on November 12, 2016, 07:16:25 AM
Looks great Chuck!
You going to log veneer it to match the cabin?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 14, 2016, 09:58:57 AM
Looks great Chuck!
You going to log veneer it to match the cabin?

Yes, 10" tall pine log profile x 3" thick. Hoping to stain it prior to putting it up. That stuff is REAL expensive at $3.50 L.F., it's going to cost around $3,500 to do this amount of sq. ft. Adding that back garage door cost money, but it saved log siding too  :rolleyes:

I'm not going to bother doing anything until Spring. She'll sit in Tyvek over the winter until I get around to it... Looking into buying stainless steel nails for my air guns.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 18, 2016, 08:01:20 AM
This weekend is supposed to produce 3-8" of snow up yonder.... Lucky for me, the GC got the roof up yesterday, so i'm getting much closer to being weather tight now  :thumbsupsmileyanim:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on November 18, 2016, 12:06:42 PM
Looking good GB.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on November 19, 2016, 12:53:03 PM
Very nice!  Did you get much snow up there?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 21, 2016, 08:52:05 AM
Very nice!  Did you get much snow up there?

Not sure if it snowed more or not... On Saturday morning the web cam showed around 4" on the ground.  :snow:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 22, 2016, 12:00:01 PM
So excited to see the work progress this weekend. Running up there on Friday after Thanksgiving to check out all the wood work / metal deck work. Contractor said that he wouldn't be able to get the doors and windows in this week due to the short work week (and opening of deer season) LOL....  I just can't wait to check out the work and attempt to layout the garage space (which I know is already way too small, but tons better than I've had for the past 9 years).

One last (big) check to write  :'( Then its on me to finish up the log siding in the spring, stain it, install all the electrical work, insulation, drywall, knotty pine ceiling, wood flooring, door openers, lock sets, etc... Going to be a busy ass spring / summer  :help:

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on November 22, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
Spring for lock set's? That should be ASAP.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 22, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
Spring for lock set's? That should be ASAP.

Yeah, I suppose you're right, although not much up there worth stealing.
Also need to call my insurance agent. I guess I ought to add the sq. ft. to the insurance policy too.... Didn't really think about that until today...  :blush:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 23, 2016, 08:03:34 AM
GC texted me his final pictures. We're 100% completed (what we've contracted for anyway). The rest is on me, unless I get lazy and hire him to do more, which is a possibility  :hypocrite:

Going to meet up with him on Friday to pay him, pick up the keys and get any paper work the city might have left with him. Hoping I get something that says passed final inspection....

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 23, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
backside ...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on November 23, 2016, 10:36:26 AM
I am jealous GB.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 23, 2016, 10:45:15 AM
I am jealous GB.

No reason for that. Hopefully someday we can arrange a ride up there together !
I know you frequent the Florence, WI area and that's just 6 short miles away  :punk:

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on November 23, 2016, 11:16:18 AM
How do you pass a final inspection without Siding on the exterior?  Must be they work a little differently up nort... :specool:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 23, 2016, 11:53:08 AM
How do you pass a final inspection without Siding on the exterior?  Must be they work a little differently up nort... :specool:

Are you kidding me? North of Dells, Tyvek is considered siding  :floor:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on November 23, 2016, 01:50:49 PM
Is that all garage space in terms of public disclosure?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 23, 2016, 02:24:47 PM
Is that all garage space in terms of public disclosure?

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 28, 2016, 10:19:08 AM
Got some of the sleds inside over the weekend.  :biggrin:
Now the trick will be to not put too much stuff inside, so that I can get some of the work completed without moving stuff around 24/7
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on November 29, 2016, 08:38:23 AM
GB, do you hope to retire to there some day?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on November 29, 2016, 10:11:42 AM
GB, do you hope to retire to there some day?

Back when Bush Jr was in office, my goal was ten years from now. After the past ten years, I added ten years onto my goal and lost plenty of 401K dollars to boot... 20 years is my new prison sentence.  :banghead:

I know what I'd like to do (leave Illinois entirely). However, that all depends on my kids addresses. I know I couldn't live too far from them, otherwise my wife would kill me.
Therefore, my thoughts are to sell my house in IL. Buy a condo or townhouse in IL. Jump around between my cabin, my condo and maybe either find a place down south (Kentucky Lake area), or travel a lot if possible. My wife and I enjoy road trips and seeing new places.

It's all a moving target at this point in life...

 

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on November 29, 2016, 06:13:48 PM
GB, do you hope to retire to there some day?

Back when Bush Jr was in office, my goal was ten years from now. After the past ten years, I added ten years onto my goal and lost plenty of 401K dollars to boot... 20 years is my new prison sentence.  :banghead:

I know what I'd like to do (leave Illinois entirely). However, that all depends on my kids addresses. I know I couldn't live too far from them, otherwise my wife would kill me.
Therefore, my thoughts are to sell my house in IL. Buy a condo or townhouse in IL. Jump around between my cabin, my condo and maybe either find a place down south (Kentucky Lake area), or travel a lot if possible. My wife and I enjoy road trips and seeing new places.

It's all a moving target at this point in life...

When we bought the Tug Hill property in 97 we were thinking we were going to build a retirement place which we thought we built in 2001. After 20 years of being tied to the same place for our vacations we sold it and now we go to different places and rent other peoples places. Much better for us as we look to find another retirement location. Being tied to the same spot for so long was getting both tiring and boring. We are now in the process of getting our main home and property ready for eventual sale. 5 Year Plan...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on February 10, 2017, 08:45:22 AM
"Summer" projects sort of moved into "Winter" projects.

My buddy John and I ran up north a few wees ago and the riding conditions were crap. So instead of wrecking the sleds, we decided to swing some hammers and get some work completed.

We built a 2x8 floor joist system on top of the floor slab. Punched a couple 6" holes through the foundation wall and extend the heating ducts into the crawl space. Insulated the cavity and installed some pex tubing. Got the 3/4" tongue and groove sheeting down and got 75% of the electrical work completed into the bedrooms. Still need to frame some closets up and get the middle wall built, but it's coming along !!!

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on February 10, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
Progress ....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on February 10, 2017, 08:56:37 AM
Next on the list is.... Finish framing interior walls and closets..... Insulating exterior walls...... Vapor barrier on ceiling and outside walls....... cutting in some doorways into the main cabin.......
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Kingpin on February 10, 2017, 02:15:57 PM
You can't resist bending pipe eh... 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on March 28, 2017, 04:02:54 PM
Geez, last summers project, will be this summers project, as I am no where close to finishing  :banghead:

Got some work time in last weekend though. Got a huge amount completed, seeing that I was up there alone.

Had to move some PEX tubes b/c I installed them way to fast and in the wrong location.
Finished the decking 100%
Insulated the outside walls with R19 bat insulation.
Insulated the ceiling with R38 bat insulation.
Installed vapor barrier everywhere to break the cold zone.
Used spray foam between the existing logs and the new framing.
Framed the center wall the divide the space into two bedrooms.
Framed two five foot x two foot closets.
Ran 1/2" conduit in the new framing for swtiches, outlets and lights.
Installed nine can lights in the garage and ran everything in conduit.
Ended up ordering the first load of log siding and accessories from the local lumber yard. It should be ready for pick up on my next run up there.

Plan on staining the siding and accessories on the ground first and installing it all with stainless steel nails.
Also ready to start dry wall on the next trip. Need to buy it along the way, so I don't haul all that weight on my truck and trailer for 6 hours.

The goal is 100% completion by July 4th

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on March 28, 2017, 04:03:58 PM
Sorry, forgot the most recent pics I took.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on March 31, 2017, 12:14:00 PM
Next time stand up when you take the pics.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on April 01, 2017, 06:45:50 PM
Next time stand up when you take the pics.

I was wonder how he got those ladders to stick to the wall like that... I need me a few of those ladders!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 04, 2017, 07:28:05 AM
Next time stand up when you take the pics.

POS iphone! Never had these problems with my Galaxy, LOL....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 11, 2017, 08:35:56 AM
The progression of pain continues ! This time I had a partner in crime, as Johnnydoo came along for a weekend of pain and suffering. At least he was well fed and hydrated  :laugh-til-cry:

For this weekend's work load....
The bedroom electric was 100% completed.
The garage electric was 90% completed.

The massive work load was cutting (2) openings into the logs. I think I added 10 years onto my chainsaws life in 6 hours time. The hard part was avoiding the metal spikes used to join the logs. I didn't ! I must have hit 7-8 of them with the saw and had to use the sawzall to cut through those, which really slowed down the log cutting process. Once the holes were made, we built custom jams to install the doors into and set those into place.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 11, 2017, 08:37:54 AM
Still need to stain the doors and put a coat of poly on them.

Apparently still need to figure out why my damn phone continues to post the pictures 90 degrees off, even when the pictures are taken in the correct angle  :banghead:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 11, 2017, 08:40:02 AM
Once the major log work was completed and we could air out the 2 stroke smell. We were able to start and complete the drywall install and even got the first tape coat on.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 11, 2017, 08:44:28 AM
This camera angle is killing me, as I still can't figure out why the pics are turned sideways.....

Anyway,
Next visit up yonder will consist of two things. If there's no rain, I plan on starting to stain the log siding (which came in early).
If it happens to rain and I can't work outside, then I can always get the 2nd and / or 3rd coat of mud up on the walls.  :beer2:

Picture is of my two place sled trailer loaded up with $$$$ log siding and trim pieces. Only enough to do the front of the cabin for now, as I just don't have enough room to store all the building materials all at once, so I plan on doing one elevation at a time.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on April 11, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Chuck the project looks great but looking at the pics is making me dizzy - er! :jump:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 12, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
Chuck the project looks great but looking at the pics is making me dizzy - er! :jump:

I'm straight in real life, my pics - not so much.....  :eek:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on April 13, 2017, 08:32:43 AM
Chuck the project looks great but looking at the pics is making me dizzy - er! :jump:

I'm straight in real life, my pics - not so much.....  :eek:

I just figured you do most of your work layin down!!! :beer2:
You might want to check and make sure Rotation is Enabled on your phone.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 24, 2017, 09:13:18 AM
With all the good weather lately, I got started on the log siding this weekend. My oldest son ran up North with me (he broke his wrist playing hockey), so he wasn't even an extra pair of hands, but one handed he stained 35 pieces of log siding and trim (all six sides). While he stained, I installed. It was going great, but I ran out of gas towards the end of Saturday and didn't finish the front like I had hoped to.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 24, 2017, 09:15:13 AM
Once the corner pieces and trim pieces were installed, all the rest went in quick. Only real hard area was to scribe the corner between the existing cabin and the new addition. 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 24, 2017, 09:16:28 AM
Still having camera angle issues, but better than previously ...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on April 26, 2017, 01:28:31 PM
Looking good GB :thumbsupsmileyanim:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on April 26, 2017, 02:21:08 PM
Still having camera angle issues, but better than previously ...
Looks good! Also looks like you did a little less layin :floor: down on the job!!!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on April 26, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
Thanks fellas....

Log order #2 arrives in two weeks and I hope to at least get it all stained in one weekend. Hoping to get the order installed Memorial Day weekend and then order the final log order for June completion.

Then, a little landscaping needs to be addressed as mud needs to turn into grass at some point in life.

Finally, the interior needs to be completed as well. Need to finish the mud process, sand, prime, paint, stain doors and trim, install doors and trim, install knotty pine ceiling and flooring. Might even consider getting a new well drilled this summer too, just to cross off the entire cabin for the year.

Now I'm truck shopping too, so that is freaking me out, as trucks cost around what I paid for this cabin 10 years ago  :eek:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 04, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
Gotta be one of the most expensive weeks I've had in a long long time..... Ended up buy a new RAM 1500, in order to make that deal, I wanted to pay off my wife's Escape, Septic tank backed up and I needed to have the tank pump and the piping jet rodded from the tank to the house, my washing machine broke down, had to pay for the second log order for the cabin, ordered up a grand worth of accessories for the truck and then my damn IL tax bill showed up.  :ranting: I need to go on a spending diet....  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 08, 2017, 02:51:49 PM
Second log order / install went as planned. Got most of the back of the cabin sided this weekend, just a few boards up against the existing cabin need to be scribbed into place.

Memorial Day weekend should be the last of the log siding! Lots of time and money spent making this log cabin, look like a log cabin...... But well worth it all in the end.

Couple more progress pics to share.....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on May 09, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
I love those green steel roof's.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 10, 2017, 07:39:33 AM
I love those green steel roof's.

Yeah, works so good to pull the snow off. Need to add (2) concrete splash blocks at the two valleys. They are creating some splashing up against the log siding. Need to get that under control before the wood gets damaged...

Can't wait to get the siding finished up 100% and then to focus on landscaping and the interior finishes... It's getting there, just taking lots of time and money...  :wacko:

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 10, 2017, 01:19:10 PM
Install gutters... Everyone up North told me gutters would get ripped off by the snow but I put them low on the fascia so the outer edge was below the roof plane. Snow slid off no problem and never touched the gutters it just shot right over them.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 11, 2017, 07:16:44 AM
Install gutters... Everyone up North told me gutters would get ripped off by the snow but I put them low on the fascia so the outer edge was below the roof plane. Snow slid off no problem and never touched the gutters it just shot right over them.

I do have gutters on the back elevation of the cabin. I installed them lower than the metal deck in hopes they wouldn't get ripped off and they never did. Only problem with gutters is they'd need to come down a log wall and that might not look so good, but it might be a good option especially since they do make real dark brown gutters....

I have had snow / ice rip my plumbing vent flashing and pull my antenna cable apart  :(

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on May 11, 2017, 03:13:17 PM
Make a u shaped cover out of the log siding to cover the downspouts?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 11, 2017, 03:34:43 PM
The GC actually extended the valley around 6" further than the roof, just to get the water a little further away (which I thought was smart), but the ground around the addition is so loose and sandy that the water splashes onto the logs and I think over time, it will become an issue. Just happening in two spots. I think for now, I'm going to throw a couple plastic or concrete splash blocks there and put some river rock around that area to lessen the splash....

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on May 11, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
Install gutters... Everyone up North told me gutters would get ripped off by the snow but I put them low on the fascia so the outer edge was below the roof plane. Snow slid off no problem and never touched the gutters it just shot right over them.

I do have gutters on the back elevation of the cabin. I installed them lower than the metal deck in hopes they wouldn't get ripped off and they never did. Only problem with gutters is they'd need to come down a log wall and that might not look so good, but it might be a good option especially since they do make real dark brown gutters....

I have had snow / ice rip my plumbing vent flashing and pull my antenna cable apart  :(

I ran my plumbing vent out the wall then went verticle but kept it under the eave to protect it.
Building inspector OKed it so I was good with it!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 12, 2017, 07:46:32 AM
Install gutters... Everyone up North told me gutters would get ripped off by the snow but I put them low on the fascia so the outer edge was below the roof plane. Snow slid off no problem and never touched the gutters it just shot right over them.

I do have gutters on the back elevation of the cabin. I installed them lower than the metal deck in hopes they wouldn't get ripped off and they never did. Only problem with gutters is they'd need to come down a log wall and that might not look so good, but it might be a good option especially since they do make real dark brown gutters....

I have had snow / ice rip my plumbing vent flashing and pull my antenna cable apart  :(

I ran my plumbing vent out the wall then went verticle but kept it under the eave to protect it.
Building inspector OKed it so I was good with it!

For a metal deck roof, that is smart !
My cabin was built in 1999 by someone else... They weren't that smart (at all)....

One real bad thing about a log cabin is.... The doors and windows can't be moved very easy. This guy laid out the floor plan real sh!ty...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 23, 2017, 02:14:35 PM
If all goes well (and it doesn't rain too much), I should have the log siding completed this weekend  :punk:

Log order #3 has arrived at the local lumber yard and I just need to get it stained and installed. Also hoping to get all the nail holes filled and caulk everything really well, as I hope not to work on siding again for 10+ more years....

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on May 30, 2017, 03:04:35 PM
Log order #3 went without a hitch. Exterior of the cabin is 95% complete. All that's left is some minor nail hole filling and caulking. Ran out of the special caulking I was using, so I couldn't wrap that up 100% just yet....

Still need to plant some grass seed and do some minor hand grading this summer as well.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on June 02, 2017, 04:08:54 AM
Log order #3 went without a hitch. Exterior of the cabin is 95% complete. All that's left is some minor nail hole filling and caulking. Ran out of the special caulking I was using, so I couldn't wrap that up 100% just yet....

Still need to plant some grass seed and do some minor hand grading this summer as well.
Looks good Chuck! :thumbsupsmileyanim:
You even took this pic standing up!!! :beer2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on June 07, 2017, 10:31:04 AM
Log order #3 went without a hitch. Exterior of the cabin is 95% complete. All that's left is some minor nail hole filling and caulking. Ran out of the special caulking I was using, so I couldn't wrap that up 100% just yet....

Still need to plant some grass seed and do some minor hand grading this summer as well.
Looks good Chuck! :thumbsupsmileyanim:
You even took this pic standing up!!! :beer2:

 :specool:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: thnksno on June 12, 2017, 10:37:38 AM
Where to start?

Bought a home and wooded acreage west of here and still haven't figured out what to do with the old house. Maybe a rental, maybe sell it, after 18 years and 2 kids it needs some work either way. Been riding a lot recently, I bought a new DRZ last fall and a CRF1000L just last week. I modded the dizzer over the winter, maybe pushing 40hp, it's a wheelie machine. I don't plan on doing much to the CRF except ready it and plan for an epic trip next year.

Kids are out of school and the oldest one wants to drive but has no job prospects, so the old JGC sits. The last time I drove it I hit an expansion joint and death wobble occurred. I need to fix it (likely the track bar) but am sick of working on that heap.  The old lady booked a vacation early next month, that zapped my motivation to do anything until after the trip.

I have a million things to do but being in limbo between the new and old properties I can't seem to do anything. My garage is filled with bikes and go karts I haven't washed the Tundra in 2 months, it seems my only option right now is to drink beer.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on June 12, 2017, 12:49:05 PM
Where to start?

Bought a home and wooded acreage west of here and still haven't figured out what to do with the old house. Maybe a rental, maybe sell it, after 18 years and 2 kids it needs some work either way. Been riding a lot recently, I bought a new DRZ last fall and a CRF1000L just last week. I modded the dizzer over the winter, maybe pushing 40hp, it's a wheelie machine. I don't plan on doing much to the CRF except ready it and plan for an epic trip next year.

Kids are out of school and the oldest one wants to drive but has no job prospects, so the old JGC sits. The last time I drove it I hit an expansion joint and death wobble occurred. I need to fix it (likely the track bar) but am sick of working on that heap.  The old lady booked a vacation early next month, that zapped my motivation to do anything until after the trip.

I have a million things to do but being in limbo between the new and old properties I can't seem to do anything. My garage is filled with bikes and go karts I haven't washed the Tundra in 2 months, it seems my only option right now is to drink beer.

Thinkr, you've let yourself go.... This isn't the control freak / clean freak I used to know....  :floor:

I also lack motivation (at times). With all the kids sports and work stuff getting in my way, sometimes you need to just do nothing at all and keep whats left of your sanity. It all works out in the end.

Good luck to your kid. Good jobs are hard to come by right now, but they just need to get their foot in the door somewhere and work their way up the ladder.... I feel bad for kids these days b/c getting a job used to be so much easier back when I got out of college....



Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: thnksno on June 13, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
Yup, teenagers today are competing with 38 year olds for jobs, it's ridiculous. He doesn't know it, but he could buy a brand new corvette if he wanted, I refuse to make it that easy for him. Further, if he does get into college, he's going to need that money.

I'm in a rut right now because I know fit is going to hit the shan soon, so why start now. In about another 3-4 weeks I won't find time to eat. Talk about not being my normal self. The puppy pees on the carpet and I'm like, so what it's going to get ripped up soon, why bother cleaning it up. Lol!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on July 24, 2017, 02:30:55 PM
This week will conclude the 9 month saga of my cabin build.... I have (1) eight hour day left for completion and I'm pretty much done. Some minor landscaping work will be left for next summer, as I have absolutely decided to stop giving a sh!t anymore  :beer2: 

Just too much, too often.... I spent the last 6 months running up North 700 miles round trip, every two weeks to continue work. It was totally worth it, as everything has turned out great.

All that's left for my one day of work:
Install the oak flooring, install the pine trim and hang the 2nd bedroom doors (after staining all the pine). Done deal  :thumbsupsmileyanim:

Local town managed to spank me in taxes though... About a 40% increase in real estate taxes b/c the addition was 750 sq ft. That translates to about $500 extra per year, but again, it was worth it to gain the space and to be able to store some of my toys and gear better.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 08, 2017, 02:55:29 PM
Stick a fork in it, I'm done !

Some interior finishes completed....
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 08, 2017, 07:59:15 PM
I like the crown molding around the closet :specool:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on August 09, 2017, 10:40:35 AM
Now you just need to get those boys to make their beds. Or is that your bunk bed Chuck???  :shrug:  :beer2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 09, 2017, 10:52:18 AM
Now you just need to get those boys to make their beds. Or is that your bunk bed Chuck???  :shrug:  :beer2:

My kids..... make their beds......  :floor:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 09, 2017, 01:00:30 PM
This will be nice for working on the machines in the winter time  :punk:
Still need to pipe the LP line to the tanks, drill a 4" hole for the flu pipe and run a thermostat, but the hard part is done... 
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: ZiRT on August 09, 2017, 01:44:08 PM
I like the crown molding around the closet :specool:
:specool:That's the kind of work I can do, and I can't even spell carperter, carpentiner,... woodworker!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 15, 2017, 07:23:09 AM
I like the crown molding around the closet :specool:

That's a 3"x6" hand hewn log (left over from the log siding build). I also have 30 feet of 3"x10" logs left over, trying to figure out what to build with that. Thinking of wrapping my kitchen island with the logs to enhance the look.... That's for a later day. Right now I need to start enjoying the place for the rest of the year and take a nice long break - staring at what I've done drinking beers.  :beer2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on August 15, 2017, 04:26:29 PM
What I don't like about repair projects is where do you stop. My project was to replace some bad siding and trim, so that I can paint the house. I keep finding more bad cedar siding. The contractor will be replacing the shingles and gutters soon, so the rest will have to wait for some other time.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Howie on August 16, 2017, 10:45:08 AM
Well finally got around to finishing my project. Not a big project but it was drawn out long enough. To many graduations, birthdays and get togethers every weekend this summer!  :mad:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 17, 2017, 11:21:05 AM
What I don't like about repair projects is where do you stop. My project was to replace some bad siding and trim, so that I can paint the house. I keep finding more bad cedar siding. The contractor will be replacing the shingles and gutters soon, so the rest will have to wait for some other time.

Now that my cabin project is somewhat finished. My wife has a HUGE list of projects she wants started here at home.

Siding and roof are on that list  :(

Siding is original to house (1976) and looks pretty beat up.
Roof is 20 years old, still look "ok" but I know I should be planning for it in the next couple of years.

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: racerdave on August 17, 2017, 02:52:36 PM
What I don't like about repair projects is where do you stop. My project was to replace some bad siding and trim, so that I can paint the house. I keep finding more bad cedar siding. The contractor will be replacing the shingles and gutters soon, so the rest will have to wait for some other time.

Now that my cabin project is somewhat finished. My wife has a HUGE list of projects she wants started here at home.

Siding and roof are on that list  :(

Siding is original to house (1976) and looks pretty beat up.
Roof is 20 years old, still look "ok" but I know I should be planning for it in the next couple of years.



Metal roofing and never do it again in your lifetime?
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on August 17, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
What I don't like about repair projects is where do you stop. My project was to replace some bad siding and trim, so that I can paint the house. I keep finding more bad cedar siding. The contractor will be replacing the shingles and gutters soon, so the rest will have to wait for some other time.

Now that my cabin project is somewhat finished. My wife has a HUGE list of projects she wants started here at home.

Siding and roof are on that list  :(

Siding is original to house (1976) and looks pretty beat up.
Roof is 20 years old, still look "ok" but I know I should be planning for it in the next couple of years.



Metal roofing and never do it again in your lifetime?
My house is 30 years old and has the old masonite siding. This will be the third shingles replacement, all paid for by insurance claims from hail damage. The siding I can't stand is vinyl siding. It looks so cheap and hail punches holes in it. The hail bounces off the masonite, but needs a good coat of paint or it deteriorates. If I ever decided to replace all of it, it would be with Hardy Board. It is really durable. The masonite siding that went bad was above the attached garage. I am making sure that none of the new siding touches the shingles, so moisture can't be absorbed by the siding.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 17, 2017, 08:09:39 PM
Metal roof ain't all it's cracked up to be... My 20 year metal roof at camp started looking faded and had rust spots after 15 years. Sure they will give you a new panel but no money for labor.
I ended up priming and repainting the whole roof on my own dime. Cost me a couple hundred but the finish was better then the original when done.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 22, 2017, 01:38:08 PM
What I don't like about repair projects is where do you stop. My project was to replace some bad siding and trim, so that I can paint the house. I keep finding more bad cedar siding. The contractor will be replacing the shingles and gutters soon, so the rest will have to wait for some other time.

Now that my cabin project is somewhat finished. My wife has a HUGE list of projects she wants started here at home.

Siding and roof are on that list  :(

Siding is original to house (1976) and looks pretty beat up.
Roof is 20 years old, still look "ok" but I know I should be planning for it in the next couple of years.



Metal roofing and never do it again in your lifetime?

My IL house is tri-level.... It would be too much of a pain in the ass. 

Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 22, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
Metal roof ain't all it's cracked up to be... My 20 year metal roof at camp started looking faded and had rust spots after 15 years. Sure they will give you a new panel but no money for labor.
I ended up priming and repainting the whole roof on my own dime. Cost me a couple hundred but the finish was better then the original when done.

Another issue is the fact that metal roofs shed the snow / ice and water so quickly that it tends to rip gutters off the house in the winter. If you don't run gutters, then the water sheds off the roof and runs right into your foundations, leaving them damp and cracking under freezing conditions.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 22, 2017, 03:58:33 PM
Metal roof ain't all it's cracked up to be... My 20 year metal roof at camp started looking faded and had rust spots after 15 years. Sure they will give you a new panel but no money for labor.
I ended up priming and repainting the whole roof on my own dime. Cost me a couple hundred but the finish was better then the original when done.

Another issue is the fact that metal roofs shed the snow / ice and water so quickly that it tends to rip gutters off the house in the winter. If you don't run gutters, then the water sheds off the roof and runs right into your foundations, leaving them damp and cracking under freezing conditions.

Fake News!  B)

Everyone up at camp said the same thing... When I put my roof on I allowed a 2" overhang of the fascia and mounted the gutters low. When the snow comes off the roof it just shoots over the gutter and never touches it. The guy that made the gutters for me (Seamless on site) suggested double hangers and they worked great.
The first year with them on I was going to put a sheet metal cover over them to keep the snow out but never got to do it before the snow came and didn't have a problem.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 23, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
Metal roof ain't all it's cracked up to be... My 20 year metal roof at camp started looking faded and had rust spots after 15 years. Sure they will give you a new panel but no money for labor.
I ended up priming and repainting the whole roof on my own dime. Cost me a couple hundred but the finish was better then the original when done.

Another issue is the fact that metal roofs shed the snow / ice and water so quickly that it tends to rip gutters off the house in the winter. If you don't run gutters, then the water sheds off the roof and runs right into your foundations, leaving them damp and cracking under freezing conditions.

Fake News!  B)

Everyone up at camp said the same thing... When I put my roof on I allowed a 2" overhang of the fascia and mounted the gutters low. When the snow comes off the roof it just shoots over the gutter and never touches it. The guy that made the gutters for me (Seamless on site) suggested double hangers and they worked great.
The first year with them on I was going to put a sheet metal cover over them to keep the snow out but never got to do it before the snow came and didn't have a problem.

Although I have not had gutter problems either. I have heard of them happening.

I have had my plumbing vent boot get ripped off and my TV antenna too. The ice slid down the roof and caught the rubber flashing the right way, lifting up a corning and creating a roof leak. The antenna wire had pulled out of the socket too. The antenna was attached to the plumbing vent pipe - cuz I like to rig up stuff like that from time to time  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 23, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
Metal roof ain't all it's cracked up to be... My 20 year metal roof at camp started looking faded and had rust spots after 15 years. Sure they will give you a new panel but no money for labor.
I ended up priming and repainting the whole roof on my own dime. Cost me a couple hundred but the finish was better then the original when done.

Another issue is the fact that metal roofs shed the snow / ice and water so quickly that it tends to rip gutters off the house in the winter. If you don't run gutters, then the water sheds off the roof and runs right into your foundations, leaving them damp and cracking under freezing conditions.

Fake News!  B)

Everyone up at camp said the same thing... When I put my roof on I allowed a 2" overhang of the fascia and mounted the gutters low. When the snow comes off the roof it just shoots over the gutter and never touches it. The guy that made the gutters for me (Seamless on site) suggested double hangers and they worked great.
The first year with them on I was going to put a sheet metal cover over them to keep the snow out but never got to do it before the snow came and didn't have a problem.

Although I have not had gutter problems either. I have heard of them happening.

I have had my plumbing vent boot get ripped off and my TV antenna too. The ice slid down the roof and caught the rubber flashing the right way, lifting up a corning and creating a roof leak. The antenna wire had pulled out of the socket too. The antenna was attached to the plumbing vent pipe - cuz I like to rig up stuff like that from time to time  :biggrin:

I had my stove pipe up high as close to the ridge as possible so there was not a lot of snow or momentum coming down to it. I vented my plumbing through the wall and kept it below the eave/roof overhang. The inspector thought it was a pretty good idea...
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: greekboy on August 24, 2017, 11:21:27 AM
Metal roof ain't all it's cracked up to be... My 20 year metal roof at camp started looking faded and had rust spots after 15 years. Sure they will give you a new panel but no money for labor.
I ended up priming and repainting the whole roof on my own dime. Cost me a couple hundred but the finish was better then the original when done.

Another issue is the fact that metal roofs shed the snow / ice and water so quickly that it tends to rip gutters off the house in the winter. If you don't run gutters, then the water sheds off the roof and runs right into your foundations, leaving them damp and cracking under freezing conditions.

Fake News!  B)

Everyone up at camp said the same thing... When I put my roof on I allowed a 2" overhang of the fascia and mounted the gutters low. When the snow comes off the roof it just shoots over the gutter and never touches it. The guy that made the gutters for me (Seamless on site) suggested double hangers and they worked great.
The first year with them on I was going to put a sheet metal cover over them to keep the snow out but never got to do it before the snow came and didn't have a problem.

Although I have not had gutter problems either. I have heard of them happening.

I have had my plumbing vent boot get ripped off and my TV antenna too. The ice slid down the roof and caught the rubber flashing the right way, lifting up a corning and creating a roof leak. The antenna wire had pulled out of the socket too. The antenna was attached to the plumbing vent pipe - cuz I like to rig up stuff like that from time to time  :biggrin:

I had my stove pipe up high as close to the ridge as possible so there was not a lot of snow or momentum coming down to it. I vented my plumbing through the wall and kept it below the eave/roof overhang. The inspector thought it was a pretty good idea...

The original design of my cabin addition, had the roof sloped towards the overhead door. The GC told me I was nuts and we talked me into reversing the roof lines so that the snow wouldn't pile up in front of the door. He was the smarter of the two, that's for sure ! LOL...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on August 28, 2017, 06:41:32 PM
Yeah my roof slope was to the front porch roof and entry in front and the deck in the back :banghead:
Should have been turned 90 degrees to the sides... #NotMyProblemAnymore!
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: snopork on August 29, 2017, 07:47:55 PM
i'm switching to Fall projects - just too lazy to post anything about em.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Rage'n Renegade on September 09, 2017, 08:51:11 AM
Summer?  What is summer?   This summer was non-existent for me.   Can I have a do over?   Days are getting shorter, it's getting cooler, and I haven't even had summer yet!

  :fear2:
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Hal on September 09, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
Summer?  What is summer?   This summer was non-existent for me.   Can I have a do over?   Days are getting shorter, it's getting cooler, and I haven't even had summer yet!

  :fear2:
I know what you are talking about. I have been painting, staining, replacing bad siding and trim, new lights and found out I had to upgrade my smoke detectors after paying extra to my contractor for replacing the front windows with high efficiency ones. I couldn't use the grandfather excuse on my 30 year old house. The codes require both smoke and carbon monoxide detectors on both floors and smoke detectors in all bedrooms. I replaced the existing smoke detectors with combination smoke and carbon monoxide, that are hard wired. In the bedroom, installed battery powered smoke detectors. Those detectors have lithium oxide batteries that can't be replaced, but will last ten years. That was another $160 that was unforeseen. My $2000 insurance allowance has nearly disappeared.
Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 12, 2017, 08:20:43 PM
I am nearing the end of my project on the house... nearly two years working between money making work.
Last week I mounted the two "Floating" vanities (lagged to the wall, no legs), two Kohler medicine cabinets and two lighting fixtures and connected the supplies and drains.
I also installed one of the Vonn Lighting LED chandeliers. They have two rings hung on six cables that are individually adjustable and also supply the power.
I also installed one of the Big Ass Fans Haiku ceiling fans with LED lighting and WiFi control. This thing is only 52" but moves some huge air!
Yesterday I got a good start on the built up Craftsman/Art Deco style Crown Molding. I picked the highest and most difficult to access first to get that done and out of the way... plus any screw ups will be well out of sight since it is 17 ft AFF.

I am tired of trying to link or upload photos so here is a link to the entire album on Google Photos. There are some photos from years ago when we re-roofed at the beggining. The latest photos are last

https://photos.app.goo.gl/b2s5NjSq0h3X9Vtr1





Title: Re: Summer projects
Post by: Phantom on September 17, 2017, 07:15:49 PM
Coming down the home stretch... Fabricated and installed the grill for the high wall return today and installed another Vonn Lighting LED chandelier...

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